Note to Family:
Western Society has been running a detailed version of ‘Crow’ or ‘Old Crow’ – our Christmas deception of the children. We’ve been living in it as oblivious as the deceived children. The societal deception stems from philosophical planning and has been foundational to western society for thousands of years.
INTRO – Many ‘Truths’ of Society are Lies that Waste our Lives.
From my discussion with EE. (Given in context later):
Happy to talk to someone that plays guitar. I sold the Ovation I imported years ago, as needed $$$. When they stopped the Lords Prayer in parliament I arranged it to some guitar on YT and told them if they didn’t believe it then the expectation to pray it was not reasonable and I (and presumably) other Christians would take care of it. I’ll upload an mp3 to my website so you can have a listen to some of what my delusional bible belief caused me to do. The guitar is about as good as I put together, but I couldn’t play it now.
MY – THE LORDS PRAYER TO SOME GUITAR
(Warning – Singing starts about half way)
Comment and YouTube discussion with EE
Original Comment by NELN – 7 years ago
“Yeah, if I thought the bible was the word of god, I would be reading it over and over and over again and meet with others to discuss the text. I would read books by others discussing the text. My whole life would be centered around memorizing and understanding the text. It is bizarre that there are many people who think it is the word of god yet don’t bother to read it.”
david fenton – 3 years ago
Yeah, I did that. The indoctrination and waste of time I did to myself was considerable … because of the lie that the bible is the word of God.
EE replies – 3rd May 2023
@david fenton Even if it’s entirely fictitious, the Bible is still one of the most important texts in the English language, at the very least. Even if you felt your time was wasted by Christians, consider that there’s much to be learned from the ancient text. With a different perspective your time may not have been wasted.
david fenton – 3rd May 2023
Thanks for your reply to this old comment.
“EVEN IF IT’S ENTIRELY FICTITIOUS,”
Objectively, as far as I know and can show, the bible is significantly based on philosophical planning in Plato to deceive and defraud the general public by ‘Philosopher–King’ rulers. The text, ‘Plato and the Creation of the Hebrew Bible’ lays out some of the planning and how it was used to create the bible. There are various YT vids in which the author discusses this. e.g.
“THE BIBLE IS STILL ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TEXTS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, AT THE VERY LEAST. … CONSIDER THAT THERE’S MUCH TO BE LEARNED FROM THE ANCIENT TEXT.”
Because the Bible is a prime example of philosophical influence deceptively founding western civilisation, knowledge of it gives insights into philosophical deception. Most significantly, this is an objective understanding of the ancient roots and current nature of western society.
The planning in Plato is still being used and like any design that works, it has been continually refined and improved. Because of well over 2000 years of use and improvement, the ‘Religious Sense’ of the bible has been genre transitioned – it’s no longer outwardly religious, but is far more devastatingly effective.
“EVEN IF YOU FELT YOUR TIME WAS WASTED BY CHRISTIANS,”
I consider church attending Christians and most Pastors/Priests etc. to be unwitting victims as I was. Those philosophically aware of what Christianity and society is and who perpetuate it; through failure to make known the truth of it; are the ones most responsible for wasting my time and doing extremely significant damage to my core of reason and hence thinking and living.
The violation through such trespass into and ‘stealing’ key parts of another’s mind is atrocious. And western society is based upon and uses upgraded worse forms of it today! Western society today has billions of lovely people that have had extremely corrupting things done to their cognitive function and resultant world views and living. And because I’m still conditioned to collectivism because my familial ties were in-grafted into society, I love and feel deeply for them all. (Addition: Even family it’s too difficult to be around because I live in a different world to them such that being my true self causes reactions.)
“WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE YOUR TIME MAY NOT HAVE BEEN WASTED.”
The time was definitely wasted in the sense that I was basing and living my life from philosophical fabrications, both in the Christian genre and the Natural genre which is the upgraded form of philosophical false narrative now most prominent.
Finding out the core fact that the Hebrew bible and religious beliefs from it (Christian/Islamic) are philosophical and in particular Platonic, in their roots, gives powerful perspective. So powerful that it helps penetrate the even the more deceptive and influential effects of the upgraded forms of philosophical deception today.
If you want to discuss aspects/parts of philosophical deception past or present let me know. I wouldn’t want to waste all that time gaining insights into the bible, which is at its root — Plato’s-philosophical-planning.
Just like the bible had it’s various topics and stories the new super narrative has its own. Feel free to pick one your interested in or don’t know about or add one I don’t know about.
- Schooling as the prime method of conditioning/indoctrination.
- Covid virus/pandemic
- Aids virus/pandemic
- Viruses not what we’ve been led to think
- Jenner’s vaccination as philosophical narrative
- ‘Woke’ Ideology
- THE terrorist attacks on that date
- Nuclear Bombs as philosophical narrative
- Hitlers Germany Holocaust etc. as philosophical narrative
- Geneva convention – war trials as philosophical narrative
- Global warming etc.
- Or other aspects topics
Happy to talk to someone that plays guitar. I sold the Ovation I imported years ago, as needed $$$. When they stopped the Lords Prayer in parliament I arranged it to some guitar on YT and told them if they didn’t believe it then the expectation to pray it was not reasonable and I and presumably other Christians would take care of it. I’ll upload an mp3 to my website so you can have a listen to some of what my delusional bible belief caused me to do. The guitar is about as good as I put together, but I couldn’t play it now.
Found it, uploaded it, the file was dated 2014! I’ve come a long way since then but not my guitar playing.
Have a GREAT day EE!
EE – 4th May 2023
@david fenton Wow. That’s one hell of a response! These topics are of great interest to me but I’m a father to two small children and caring for them consumes most of my daylight hours (leaving my music work resigned to a few hours n the evening) so responding in kind isn’t typically feasible, despite the fact that I’d love to hear more of your thoughts. Ever considered using your channel to express these ideas?
I must say that it definitely doesn’t sound to me like you wasted ALL of your time. Forming a worldview this unencumbered by prevailing narratives must be worth something right? Finding a way out of the cave is worth the struggle, no?
Note: YouTube names other than mine, have been reduced to initials. I’ve slightly changed some of mine. The originals can be found among the almost 500 comments, (at this time) here:
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My response to EE on YouTube
david fenton – 2 seconds ago
No problem at all.
The upload of The Lords Prayer/Guitar, I put on a page created with our YouTube conversation. Link:
A few more of my thoughts are on the site but they need a fair bit of editing. I’ll put some more there in the coming week and onwards so you can drop in, read comment as willing/able.
I MUST SAY THAT IT DEFINITELY DOESN’T SOUND TO ME LIKE YOU WASTED ALL OF YOUR TIME.
All time spent pursuing the emptiness in lies is wasted time because it could be spent pursuing substantial reality based things.
FORMING A WORLDVIEW THIS UNENCUMBERED BY PREVAILING NARRATIVES MUST BE WORTH SOMETHING RIGHT?
Absolutely of course!
A core value of all, is truth. Becoming unencumbered by lies and finding truth, centres and founds life for more optimal living.
FINDING A WAY OUT OF THE CAVE IS WORTH THE STRUGGLE, NO?
Ah, you’re someone with enough philosophical knowledge to talk simply and truly about life in philosophical terms.
Coming out of the cave is usually an extremely disturbing and difficult thing. There is not just one cave (or major philosophical narrative.) Each one that I struggled out of involved loss of communion to others in the particular narrative. There is also often loss of employment, friends, family relationships/acceptance, rejection by powerful institutions and businesses such as censoring on YouTube and Facebook. Official discrimination or self separation for not complying with false narrative such as my leaving school teaching and my partners expulsion from nursing for declining Covid vaccination.
If you’re going to visit my site and have a listen to some guitar, do it soon as I intend to make my site age restricted with a requirement of logging in and so on. The process of struggling out of Plato’s allegorical ‘Cave’ can be very harmful and destructive financially, socially, emotionally and so on. The depression, sadness, isolation, rejection, discrimination and more that is unavoidable if struggling out of the cave is dangerous and it is difficult to make the dangers known before hand … but this I will do the best of my ability.
Thanks for the chat EE